CO129-195 - Governor Hennessy - 1881 [1-4] — Page 146

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Mr Johnson.

Before M. Pearson's minute on this paper is carried out I should be much obliged if you would look at the minute on 90041771 and draft and see by reference to recent Estimates from Hong Kong (1) whether the instructions to set out in the main heading of the Estimates all Pensions has been attended to & (1) whether the "non-effective" charge for gratuities & Pensions to Police has shewn any tendency to increase since that time.

To give the Governor absolute discretion to dispose of £14,000 without the supervision of the Secretary of State, & my fear is that it will lead to the "non-effective" charges becoming out of all proportion to the "effective" charges. M. Lucas in minuting 18926/80 does not appear in any way to have adverted to the decision taken on 16807/81; & though Mr. Lewes in his minute of 4th October on 16807/81 alluded to that paper, Mr. Meade passed the draft to the Governor on 29th Sept on that paper before Mr. Lewes's minute was written, & I feel sure that Mr. Meade by his minute on the present paper intended deliberately to overrule his own minute on 16807/81.

Mr. Lucas's idea (as would appear from his last minute of 5th Oct on 16007/87) of relieving the financial deck of the trouble of supervising small Police Pensions is no doubt a very laudable one, but the 4th clause of Ordinance 8 of 1867 would allow the Governor to give Capt. Superintendent a full-pay pension for life or any other outrageous thing.

As regards what I have always understood to be the intention of such provisions, it was to give the Executive certain powers in the administration of the affairs of the Colony, but that in his discretion he should take instructions that the Secretary of State may choose to give him as to the mode or extent to which he should exercise the powers conferred upon him by the Legislature.

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Mr Johnson. Before M. Pearson's minute on this paper is carried out I should be much obliged if you would look at the minute on 90041771 and draft and see by reference to recent Estimates from Hong Kong (1) whether the instructions to set out in the main heading of the Estimates all Pensions has been attended to & (1) whether the "non-effective" charge for gratuities & Pensions to Police has shewn any tendency to increase since that time. To give the Governor absolute discretion to dispose of £14,000 without the supervision of the Secretary of State, & my fear is that it will lead to the "non-effective" charges becoming out of all proportion to the "effective" charges. M. Lucas in minuting 18926/80 does not appear in any way to have adverted to the decision taken on 16807/81; & though Mr. Lewes in his minute of 4th October on 16807/81 alluded to that paper, Mr. Meade passed the draft to the Governor on 29th Sept on that paper before Mr. Lewes's minute was written, & I feel sure that Mr. Meade by his minute on the present paper intended deliberately to overrule his own minute on 16807/81. Mr. Lucas's idea (as would appear from his last minute of 5th Oct on 16007/87) of relieving the financial deck of the trouble of supervising small Police Pensions is no doubt a very laudable one, but the 4th clause of Ordinance 8 of 1867 would allow the Governor to give Capt. Superintendent a full-pay pension for life or any other outrageous thing. As regards what I have always understood to be the intention of such provisions, it was to give the Executive certain powers in the administration of the affairs of the Colony, but that in his discretion he should take instructions that the Secretary of State may choose to give him as to the mode or extent to which he should exercise the powers conferred upon him by the Legislature. JNR 5/1/872
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Mr Johnson. Before M. Pearson's minute on this paper is carried out Ishould be much obliged if you would look at the minute. and draft on 90041771 and see by reference to recent Estimates from Hong Kong (1) whether the instuctions to set out in the main heading of the Estimates all Pensions has been attended t & 1) whether the "non-effective" charge for pratuities & Pensions to Police has shewn any tendency to increase that time_ A to give A 14,000 is a large sun to Governor the absolute discretion to dispone of without the supervision of th the Lecretary of State, & my fear is that it will lead to the " non effective" charges forth. Brice becoming out of all proportion to the "effective "charges M. Lucas in minuting 18926/80 does not to have adverted to the appear in any way decision taken on goodlyy; & though Me Lewes in his minute of 4th October on 16807/fellubedl to that paper, Mr. Meade passed the draft 807/87 on 29th Sept 145 16807181 to the Gyor com or on that paper by before written, & Ich not J M. Lewes's minate was feel sure that Mr Meade by himinate on the present paper intended deliberately to overrule his own minate the decision on goodlyy- Mr. Lucas's at idles (as would apper from his last minate of 5th Oct" on 16007) of relieving the financial deck of the trouble of Expervising small Police Pensions is no doubt Le takes a very landable one, but the var the 4th claws of Ordinance 8 the tommor of of 1867 would allow the your to five Capt. Inperintendent a fullpay pension for Leon life or any other outrageon. thing_ as regarde What I have always understood the the intention of such provisions was to give the becactive certain powers the legislature. in the administration of the affairs oft. Colong but that in his on position in the accentive remoto take * instruction that the Secretary of state may choose to five him as to the mode textent to whichike isti exercise the powers conferred upon him by the Cepistature- JNR 5/1/872 any TO.
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Mr Johnson.

Before M. Pearson's minute on this paper is carried out Ishould be much obliged if you would look at the minute.

and draft on

90041771

and see by reference to recent Estimates from Hong Kong

(1) whether the instuctions to set out in the main heading of the Estimates all Pensions has been attended t

& 1) whether the "non-effective" charge for pratuities & Pensions to Police has shewn any

tendency to increase that time_

A

to give

A

14,000 is a large sun to Governor the absolute discretion to dispone

of without the supervision of th the Lecretary of State, & my fear is that it will lead to

the

" non effective" charges forth. Brice becoming out of all proportion to the "effective "charges M. Lucas in minuting 18926/80 does not

to have adverted to the appear in

any way

decision taken on goodlyy; & though Me Lewes in his minute of 4th October on 16807/fellubedl to that paper, Mr. Meade passed the draft

807/87 on 29th Sept 145

16807181

to the Gyor com or on that paper by before

written, & Ich not

J

M. Lewes's minate was feel sure that Mr Meade by himinate on the present paper intended deliberately to overrule his own minate the decision

on goodlyy-

Mr. Lucas's at idles (as would apper from his last minate of 5th Oct" on 16007) of relieving the financial deck of the trouble of Expervising small Police Pensions is no doubt

Le takes

a very

landable one,

but the var

the 4th claws of Ordinance 8

the

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of of 1867 would allow the your to five Capt. Inperintendent a fullpay pension for Leon life or any other outrageon. thing_

as regarde

What I have always understood the the intention of such provisions was to give the becactive certain powers

the legislature. in the administration of the affairs oft. Colong but that in his on position in the accentive remoto take

*

instruction that the Secretary of state may choose to five him as

to the mode textent to whichike isti exercise the powers conferred upon him by the Cepistature-

JNR 5/1/872

any

TO.

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